Maddow was pretty good for Term 1.0, I must say, probably the best outlet. She won't be for 2.0. She's still interesting, and best doing her own long-form investigations rather than as a host.
1. I'm kind of happy that this time, no one thinks MSNBC or NYT is going to save us. In fact, I think the answer is going to come from running counter to MSM and running against D.C. and the Federalization of right-wing ideas.
2. Yes I think it's a 50-50 as to whether these clowns are stalking horses to get the real people, are if they are the real choices. I think the most logical answer is he will play every down, and if he can get his people, he'll take it if he has to settle for Bill-Barr types, he'll do it and fire them. It's hard to not say they will be in control and have the initiative, but for any President that ends in the summer or fall.
3. I think you are seeing the trolling and "feature not bug" of scaring liberals, women etc. They want us to be in fear, they want us with hats on and picket signs. They don't want us as homeowners, workers and parents.
I'm going to make a rule for myself not to know what the answer is at least until 2026.
I don't have a voice, but I wish someone would say it out loud on CNN for example:
The reason why Trump picked a bunch of incompetent, even impossible candidates for DOD and DOJ is simple, but you have to think like a dictator, like Saddam Hussein, Vladimir Putin, Stalin... Really:
He wants to see WHO in the GOP is going to be an enemy. Who has the guts to refuse to confirm them. They will expose themselves, and if the past is any metric, their colleagues will drop them like a hot potato.
Trump is not to be underestimated. Nor his handlers. Remember, Bannon compared himself to Lenin...
Yes. You have to think multiple benefits for him in this strategy. Test loyalty, anger Dems into megaphone-wielders, show the base he can do different things and there is a "swamp," if he doesn't get his people he gets so many concessions, and finally - he probably gets his people.
meanwhile Biden appoints Merrick Garland. A sop to moderates and a only on the beltway silent fu.
I don't think he'll appoint Garland, and I don't think that Garland has the stones for the coming battle... The postmodern USA is real, the rest is sniffling nostalgia for better times that never were... The best the Dems (or we who still believe in democracy as being a slow but good system that needs brains, hard work, the ability to compromise, and a je ne sais quoi of corruption) can do is let the GOP hang itself by its own little self.... They should have dumped Trump in 2016, they had a chance in 2019, in 2021, and since... But the almost sexual need for power got the better of them.
Just one point on keeping conversation with trump loving white women neighbors. Let’s not white wash the truth that this voting block did not know who Trump is and what he stands for. Speak the truth that the majority of white women voted for a sexual predator, convicted felon, and serial liar because historically white women have and are the “co-architects of white supremacy.” Any transformation in dialogue with these “neighbors” must begin from the truth that their fear of the presidential leadership authority of an accomplished, well qualified, Black woman- who holds the office of VP-was both threatening and distorting to their white privilege place in front of their children and society.
I would suggest an analysis through these lens that may help with reporting in the days ahead. Included is a perspective from the late bell hooks.
“White women and black men have it both ways. They can act as oppressor or be oppressed. Black men may be victimized by racism, but sexism allows them to act as exploiters and oppressors of women. White women may be victimized by sexism, but racism enables them to act as exploiters and oppressors of black people. Both groups have led liberation movements that favor their interests and support the continued oppression of other groups. Black male sexism has undermined struggles to eradicate racism just as white female racism undermines feminist struggle. As long as these two groups or any group defines liberation as gaining social equality with ruling class white men, they have a vested interest in the continued exploitation and oppression of others.
Comments I've heard: So what I've had bosses like that. He has his flaws, Democrats have more, look at the way Biden [fill in with stupid misrepresented still photo of Biden acting like any town mayor might, hugging or back-slapping], oh more TDS! Trump, Trump with you people.
PS: I don't know why Roginsky's Substack is not getting more views. But as usual, the dinosaurs still occupy the site. This is how the web functions. A platform is adopted (smart move), then it gets filled with great stuff, the click distribution provides success metrics and creates attraction to the detriment of others, there is so much material then, that no one can follow, it's all haphazard.
One of the funniest things: I subscribed to Andrew Keene's stack, because I read his book "The Internet Is Not the Answer." In it he points out the absurdity of people imagining their voice has any meaning, when you see that Justin Bieber has millions of followers, but follows nobody (or something like that, the book is in my library)... I subscribed to Keene's stack, and was bombarded daily by posts. Apparently, like Daisy in Rhinoceros, he joined rather than remain the rebel.
My example will always be Quora. Great commentary and thinks in 2013, a few right-wingers with small audiences, and whola, even before Trump, the Rwers I laughed at started getting 000's of likes 2015-2017... When they saw Quora answers reaching Google, it was over. Most top writers fled by 2018 or so. It was also ruined by algos and AI written questions and answers - the CEO there is now on ChatGPT board.
Thanks for the comment... Quora is/was fun, indeed... Frankly... I find this here OK,, but as a working journo (in the watch industry (which branches out quite far into science and tech) ... I have always been reluctant to do anything online for many reasons... First one, I'm old-fashioned, I believe that paper is better, the interaction between the reader and paper is more stable...
I would like to add one note about RFKJr. It is a general note. Many people consider conspiracy theorists only from the people's side: Those who believe that there is a "they" out there and everything is under "their" control. And these "theys" have incredibly evil designs upon the rest of us, and they have inexhaustible resources. These bizarre concepts, misconnected dots, hallucinations accompanied by spooky music, have been around for a long time. I studied them, even wrote once about the LaRouchists once and spent months reading their literature.* And I can say, I am innoculated, because once you see their BS, you can no longer unsee them. They are pretty much all the same.
One aspect often ignored is that they are quite lucrative for the conspiracy peddler. RFKs spiritus rector is Andrew Wakefield, former surgeon, and perpetrator of the anti-vax fraud (look him up).... This began in 1998. At some point he moved to the USA, where the pool of potential patsies was much larger, and there he made a fortune, dated a supermodel, whatever.... RFK Jr obviously saw the potential earnings in the anti-vax movement, and demanded his racketeering rights. BTW: This is exactly why Trump suddenly went anti-vax and started suggesting that people drink bleach... He was maintaining his ties to a base that considers science to be of Beelzebub...
"And so I am beginning to feel like Bérenger at the end of Ionesco’s Rhinoceros. Lonely, but incapable of joining the cult-like community that believes that there’s a “they” out there and “they” are out to get them. There’s also something somber to these CT. The same people who are spreading doubt about climate change, are also spreading doubt about the veracity and impact of the virus. And they are the same people who want to see Trump re-elected. Those are just the facts, available straight from the horse’s mouth, no mysterious dot-connecting necessary. Look it up. The Fox pundits, the Breitbart gnomes, etc., all are maintaining a large base of conspiracy-addled people, mainly for financial gain …
*I had a bet with a source in the German BKA (federal police). He thought this tiny political cult was financed by some secret service agency, this awas during the Cold War. I bet it was fraud. They had tons of money. My source was unfamiliar with the USA, where there are people who will believe anything. when LaRouche landed in jail for credit card fraud, I gave my source a buzz...
I worked in medical marketing and when I did a vaccine PR, woo. I couldn't imagine the vitriol. Turns out a Dr. Mercola (another one of the big-money alternative med guys) had used a press release of mine. Got some nasty emails. All well before Trump, believe it was 2012.
Maddow was pretty good for Term 1.0, I must say, probably the best outlet. She won't be for 2.0. She's still interesting, and best doing her own long-form investigations rather than as a host.
1. I'm kind of happy that this time, no one thinks MSNBC or NYT is going to save us. In fact, I think the answer is going to come from running counter to MSM and running against D.C. and the Federalization of right-wing ideas.
2. Yes I think it's a 50-50 as to whether these clowns are stalking horses to get the real people, are if they are the real choices. I think the most logical answer is he will play every down, and if he can get his people, he'll take it if he has to settle for Bill-Barr types, he'll do it and fire them. It's hard to not say they will be in control and have the initiative, but for any President that ends in the summer or fall.
3. I think you are seeing the trolling and "feature not bug" of scaring liberals, women etc. They want us to be in fear, they want us with hats on and picket signs. They don't want us as homeowners, workers and parents.
I'm going to make a rule for myself not to know what the answer is at least until 2026.
I don't have a voice, but I wish someone would say it out loud on CNN for example:
The reason why Trump picked a bunch of incompetent, even impossible candidates for DOD and DOJ is simple, but you have to think like a dictator, like Saddam Hussein, Vladimir Putin, Stalin... Really:
He wants to see WHO in the GOP is going to be an enemy. Who has the guts to refuse to confirm them. They will expose themselves, and if the past is any metric, their colleagues will drop them like a hot potato.
Trump is not to be underestimated. Nor his handlers. Remember, Bannon compared himself to Lenin...
Yes. You have to think multiple benefits for him in this strategy. Test loyalty, anger Dems into megaphone-wielders, show the base he can do different things and there is a "swamp," if he doesn't get his people he gets so many concessions, and finally - he probably gets his people.
meanwhile Biden appoints Merrick Garland. A sop to moderates and a only on the beltway silent fu.
I don't think he'll appoint Garland, and I don't think that Garland has the stones for the coming battle... The postmodern USA is real, the rest is sniffling nostalgia for better times that never were... The best the Dems (or we who still believe in democracy as being a slow but good system that needs brains, hard work, the ability to compromise, and a je ne sais quoi of corruption) can do is let the GOP hang itself by its own little self.... They should have dumped Trump in 2016, they had a chance in 2019, in 2021, and since... But the almost sexual need for power got the better of them.
I agree with you!
Just one point on keeping conversation with trump loving white women neighbors. Let’s not white wash the truth that this voting block did not know who Trump is and what he stands for. Speak the truth that the majority of white women voted for a sexual predator, convicted felon, and serial liar because historically white women have and are the “co-architects of white supremacy.” Any transformation in dialogue with these “neighbors” must begin from the truth that their fear of the presidential leadership authority of an accomplished, well qualified, Black woman- who holds the office of VP-was both threatening and distorting to their white privilege place in front of their children and society.
I would suggest an analysis through these lens that may help with reporting in the days ahead. Included is a perspective from the late bell hooks.
“White women and black men have it both ways. They can act as oppressor or be oppressed. Black men may be victimized by racism, but sexism allows them to act as exploiters and oppressors of women. White women may be victimized by sexism, but racism enables them to act as exploiters and oppressors of black people. Both groups have led liberation movements that favor their interests and support the continued oppression of other groups. Black male sexism has undermined struggles to eradicate racism just as white female racism undermines feminist struggle. As long as these two groups or any group defines liberation as gaining social equality with ruling class white men, they have a vested interest in the continued exploitation and oppression of others.
Bell Hooks
https://www.vox.com/2021/1/15/22231079/capitol-riot-women-qanon-white-supremacy
Comments I've heard: So what I've had bosses like that. He has his flaws, Democrats have more, look at the way Biden [fill in with stupid misrepresented still photo of Biden acting like any town mayor might, hugging or back-slapping], oh more TDS! Trump, Trump with you people.
PS: I don't know why Roginsky's Substack is not getting more views. But as usual, the dinosaurs still occupy the site. This is how the web functions. A platform is adopted (smart move), then it gets filled with great stuff, the click distribution provides success metrics and creates attraction to the detriment of others, there is so much material then, that no one can follow, it's all haphazard.
One of the funniest things: I subscribed to Andrew Keene's stack, because I read his book "The Internet Is Not the Answer." In it he points out the absurdity of people imagining their voice has any meaning, when you see that Justin Bieber has millions of followers, but follows nobody (or something like that, the book is in my library)... I subscribed to Keene's stack, and was bombarded daily by posts. Apparently, like Daisy in Rhinoceros, he joined rather than remain the rebel.
My example will always be Quora. Great commentary and thinks in 2013, a few right-wingers with small audiences, and whola, even before Trump, the Rwers I laughed at started getting 000's of likes 2015-2017... When they saw Quora answers reaching Google, it was over. Most top writers fled by 2018 or so. It was also ruined by algos and AI written questions and answers - the CEO there is now on ChatGPT board.
Thanks for the comment... Quora is/was fun, indeed... Frankly... I find this here OK,, but as a working journo (in the watch industry (which branches out quite far into science and tech) ... I have always been reluctant to do anything online for many reasons... First one, I'm old-fashioned, I believe that paper is better, the interaction between the reader and paper is more stable...
I would like to add one note about RFKJr. It is a general note. Many people consider conspiracy theorists only from the people's side: Those who believe that there is a "they" out there and everything is under "their" control. And these "theys" have incredibly evil designs upon the rest of us, and they have inexhaustible resources. These bizarre concepts, misconnected dots, hallucinations accompanied by spooky music, have been around for a long time. I studied them, even wrote once about the LaRouchists once and spent months reading their literature.* And I can say, I am innoculated, because once you see their BS, you can no longer unsee them. They are pretty much all the same.
One aspect often ignored is that they are quite lucrative for the conspiracy peddler. RFKs spiritus rector is Andrew Wakefield, former surgeon, and perpetrator of the anti-vax fraud (look him up).... This began in 1998. At some point he moved to the USA, where the pool of potential patsies was much larger, and there he made a fortune, dated a supermodel, whatever.... RFK Jr obviously saw the potential earnings in the anti-vax movement, and demanded his racketeering rights. BTW: This is exactly why Trump suddenly went anti-vax and started suggesting that people drink bleach... He was maintaining his ties to a base that considers science to be of Beelzebub...
In 2020, after the lockdowns, I wrote (https://www.journos-blotter.com/2020/08/11/parallel-worlds-part-1/) :
"And so I am beginning to feel like Bérenger at the end of Ionesco’s Rhinoceros. Lonely, but incapable of joining the cult-like community that believes that there’s a “they” out there and “they” are out to get them. There’s also something somber to these CT. The same people who are spreading doubt about climate change, are also spreading doubt about the veracity and impact of the virus. And they are the same people who want to see Trump re-elected. Those are just the facts, available straight from the horse’s mouth, no mysterious dot-connecting necessary. Look it up. The Fox pundits, the Breitbart gnomes, etc., all are maintaining a large base of conspiracy-addled people, mainly for financial gain …
*I had a bet with a source in the German BKA (federal police). He thought this tiny political cult was financed by some secret service agency, this awas during the Cold War. I bet it was fraud. They had tons of money. My source was unfamiliar with the USA, where there are people who will believe anything. when LaRouche landed in jail for credit card fraud, I gave my source a buzz...
I worked in medical marketing and when I did a vaccine PR, woo. I couldn't imagine the vitriol. Turns out a Dr. Mercola (another one of the big-money alternative med guys) had used a press release of mine. Got some nasty emails. All well before Trump, believe it was 2012.
So many notable points. How people get their information may be the most important. Community can change the maga perspective; Rachel Maddow can't.